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 [This is a slightly edited comment on Henry Jeffreys's interesting article Why I love wearing a tie. Read it first.]

I have never been a tie person. Actually, I haven’t ever been a suit person either. Part of it is that in my youth, a suit, and even more a tie, screamed establishment, and we wouldn’t want to look like that. Then I was a student for a long time, and at my university, the student with a suit (let alone a tie) was a rare animal.

Nowadays, in my industry (IT) the people with suit and tie are managers, and everybody else doesn’t want to be mistaken for one — that would be so awkward! Ties are even more rare in academia, where I work now; nobody except maybe higher administrative staff wears a tie, and even the president only on formal occasions.

Now in my fifties, I have come to the conclusion that I am and will always be a jeans and sweater (or t-shirt) person. I wear suits on weddings and funerals, but I don’t even own a tie — on my own wedding I wore a bow tie, which in my eyes isn’t quite the same.

What Henry Jeffreys says about the tie (with a suit) is certainly true for many, or maybe most, and I don’t want to deny anyone the pleasure of wearing a tie. Looking at the photo (nice one!), I see he obviously feels it. Great!

But for me, a suit feels already strange, and with a tie, it would actually feel wrong. I just don’t see the appeal and cannot get around thinking it has no practical purpose — it is a kind of useless appendix, a piece of garment with purely symbolic value, and it says: “I am a tie wearer.” But I am not one.

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Date: 2018-01-31 06:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rone
The knot is much of the fun of a tie. A four-in-hand says, "I'm only wearing a tie because i have to." It's fashionable topology.

I used to hate dressing up, but as i turned 40, it started becoming more fun. Suits are still... limited. A good-to-great suit makes a big difference, but isn't worth the expense unless you wear one to work.

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Date: 2018-01-31 10:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rbarclay
Funnily enough, I had to wear a tie today, because a friend got his doctorate and I was invited to the official function.
Reminiscing with him (he's also not a habitual tie-wearer), I found out that this was the 2nd time this decade that we both wore a tie.

Suits, especially suit jackets, I get - if made well, they make you look more muscular (and/or less fat, if you're built like me). But a tie? It has no functional value - it won't even keep your throat/neck warm like a shawl. It's just there to get in your way, and work as a class marker (and to me, that class screams "asshole").

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